Today, an article at heise online claimed, that Lenny is supposed to ship this year, quoting Alexander’s blog entry. While I can’t find a single word in Alexander’s article claiming that we’ll release this year, I’m pretty sorry that just after we failed the first deadline which was obviously too “optimistic”, we get another one which is too short.
Two month’s ago I created a pretty simple estimation regarding Lenny’s release by looking at the rc-bugfix-rate of the last two releases and applying them to the current number of rc-bugs. As a result it looked more likely that we release Lenny in June 2009 than in September 2008. Until now, my guess for Lenny’s release still holds, at least the updated rc-graph lies perfectly on the line I’ve created two months ago.
While I wish that we’ll release Lenny as soon as possible, I hope that someone will clarify the proposed release date to the media and this time with a more defensive deadline. Some people might actually trust our estimation (I know this sounds silly). And even if everyone knows that Debian notoriously releases too late — we could at least try to propose more realistic dates and update them regularly. Just two weeks ago I still read and heard in the media that Debian will release Lenny in September although it was clear at this point that this is impossible.
Could you mark the freeze-dates too please?
I’m too lazy to find the freeze dates. If you can provide the dates + the references, I’ll include them.
Sarge frozen 2005-05-03:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00001.html
Etch frozen 2006-12-11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOdVHKFYY0c
Lenny frozen 2008-07-27:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00007.html
oh.
Sarge released 2005-06-06
Etch released 2007-04-08
What are the different colours? It is really annoying trying to read a graph where the datalines have no index…
Hmmm… it seems we have the release team, which was to optimistic, and you who seem to be too pesimistic. At least I hope so
I gathered some numberes together http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/releasing-lenny-2
While I don’t know when lenny will be released, I think it’s possible to release this quartal. An I surely hope you are wrong.
SORRY!
Posted the wrong etch-link up there…
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00004.html
the link is from a “funny” clip from The Big Bang Theory.
In case of Media, maybe it’s better to publish a “NOT Release” date. for example if you got an optimistic release date for Lenny and set it to September 2008, announce it like this; Debian Lenny wil NOT release at September 2008.
On the bright side, it’s worth the wait – upgrades on Debian really work – far more than you can say for the must-release-every-6-months Ubuntu…
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Oh my god (；ー；)
I would not mind such a wait, except because the testing branch is frozen, I will not really see many updates until lenny is released and new testing branch unfreezes.
Still, I like the stability (even of testing branch), which is why I shall continue to stick with debian (as opposed to kubuntu).
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