Comments on: My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing! http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/ and no tagline either Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:06:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: John http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153922 John Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153922 http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/ http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/

]]> By: ulrik http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153918 ulrik Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:35:45 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153918 gitk's usability gives you brain cancer. It's a good example how a simple application got worse the more it developed! The simple interface (of when I don't know, git 1.5.3?) of before was so much easier to use. Now, look at the number of actions in the contex menu and the great design of the new views dialog.. gitk’s usability gives you brain cancer. It’s a good example how a simple application got worse the more it developed! The simple interface (of when I don’t know, git 1.5.3?) of before was so much easier to use.

Now, look at the number of actions in the contex menu and the great design of the new views dialog..

]]> By: Donal Fellows http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153917 Donal Fellows Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:28:04 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153917 We've (well, Pat Thoyts especially) been working with the gitk guys to improve it so that it stops looking butt-ugly. However, the theming is not a simple as just a switch you can turn on because the themed widgets work quite a bit different under the hood; they have to if they're going to support dynamic themes since some things just aren't portable to all themes. Even basic stuff like setting the background color of a button isn't portable across all platforms (you're not allowed to do that to buttons on OSX). We’ve (well, Pat Thoyts especially) been working with the gitk guys to improve it so that it stops looking butt-ugly. However, the theming is not a simple as just a switch you can turn on because the themed widgets work quite a bit different under the hood; they have to if they’re going to support dynamic themes since some things just aren’t portable to all themes. Even basic stuff like setting the background color of a button isn’t portable across all platforms (you’re not allowed to do that to buttons on OSX).

]]> By: Konstantin Khomoutov http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153916 Konstantin Khomoutov Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:27:45 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153916 Oh, forget to add: changes making gitk use more of Tk 8.5 features (its own themeing engine) wase recently committed upstream. This will allow to customize it to fit more nicely to the users' DEs. Oh, forget to add: changes making gitk use more of Tk 8.5 features (its own themeing engine) wase recently committed upstream. This will allow to customize it to fit more nicely to the users’ DEs.

]]> By: Konstantin Khomoutov http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153915 Konstantin Khomoutov Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:21:52 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153915 Install tk8.5. Then you can uninstall tk8.4 if you do not have application which depend on this specific version. If you do, run update-alternatives --config wish and select wish8.5. After this you will get your fonts rendered using Xft/fontconfig. The alternative way is to fix your XRDB by listing a good-looking font as default, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516178#10 Install tk8.5. Then you can uninstall tk8.4 if you do not have application which depend on this specific version. If you do, run update-alternatives –config wish and select wish8.5.

After this you will get your fonts rendered using Xft/fontconfig.

The alternative way is to fix your XRDB by listing a good-looking font as default, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516178#10

]]> By: Jon http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153914 Jon Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:45:47 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153914 I was utterly convinced "sqlitebrowser" was a TCL tool until recently because I thought it looked as ugly as (e.g.) gitk. It turns out it's a qt3 tool. Damned if I can figure out how to theme it - qconfig just doesn't seem to work! I was utterly convinced “sqlitebrowser” was a TCL tool until recently because I thought it looked as ugly as (e.g.) gitk. It turns out it’s a qt3 tool. Damned if I can figure out how to theme it - qconfig just doesn’t seem to work!

]]> By: Sven Joachim http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153905 Sven Joachim Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:34:55 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153905 > If you do like anti-aliased fonts then install tk8.5 and run ‘wish8.5 /usr/bin/gitk’. :) Hey, cool! I just made this permanent by running "update-alternatives --config wish". Thank you, Sam! > If you do like anti-aliased fonts then install tk8.5 and run ‘wish8.5 /usr/bin/gitk’. :)

Hey, cool! I just made this permanent by running “update-alternatives –config wish”.

Thank you, Sam!

]]> By: Jean de Largentaye http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153904 Jean de Largentaye Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:26:09 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153904 While TK supports <a href="http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/" rel="nofollow">theming</a>, I haven't found a quick user-friendly way to activate it. After quick googling, I found a <a href="http://wiki.tcl.tk/11075" rel="nofollow">handful</a> <a href="http://wiki.tcl.tk/24094" rel="nofollow">of</a> <a href="http://www.tkdocs.com/tutorial/styles.html" rel="nofollow">references</a>, it seems that themeing has to be included in the program, none explain how a user can enable themes at runtime... (These posts found through a recent Hacker News <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=944536" rel="nofollow">post</a>.) While TK supports theming, I haven’t found a quick user-friendly way to activate it. After quick googling, I found a handful of references, it seems that themeing has to be included in the program, none explain how a user can enable themes at runtime…
(These posts found through a recent Hacker News post.)

]]> By: Sam Morris http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153903 Sam Morris Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:55:39 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153903 At least we can do something about those fonts. If you don't like anti-aliased fonts then go into your gitk preferences and set your fonts to 'Helvetica 9' and 'Courier 9'. If you do like anti-aliased fonts then install tk8.5 and run 'wish8.5 /usr/bin/gitk'. :) At least we can do something about those fonts.

If you don’t like anti-aliased fonts then go into your gitk preferences and set your fonts to ‘Helvetica 9′ and ‘Courier 9′.

If you do like anti-aliased fonts then install tk8.5 and run ‘wish8.5 /usr/bin/gitk’. :)

]]> By: TimC http://blog.venthur.de/2009/11/23/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing/#comment-153902 TimC Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:33:57 +0000 http://blog.venthur.de/?p=132#comment-153902 Thankfully, not. Thankfully, not.

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